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	<title>Comments on: Bad Management Results in Layoffs</title>
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		<title>By: Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; More Reasons to Avoid Layoffs</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-34834</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; More Reasons to Avoid Layoffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I be next?&#8221;) infects remaining workers. &#8230; research paints a fairly consistent picture: layoffs don&#8217;t work. And for good reason. In Responsible Restructuring, University of Colorado professor Wayne Cascio [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I be next?&#8221;) infects remaining workers. &#8230; research paints a fairly consistent picture: layoffs don&#8217;t work. And for good reason. In Responsible Restructuring, University of Colorado professor Wayne Cascio [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; Five Managerial Fallacies Concerning Layoffs</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-34267</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; Five Managerial Fallacies Concerning Layoffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the full post, for more good points by David Noer. Obviously when managements failures result in layoffs it is a huge blow to respect for people. It is very challenging to maintain lean thinking or Deming [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the full post, for more good points by David Noer. Obviously when managements failures result in layoffs it is a huge blow to respect for people. It is very challenging to maintain lean thinking or Deming [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-33283</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

This is a great post about and I agree that laying people off can be purely from a failure from management.  I&#039;ve worked in places where the last thing they wanted to do was lay people off, and even in a down time, they kept everyone on payroll and invested in training or improving processes.

I guess my question is, now that we are about 2 years later, and the US economy is in severe recession, unemployment is at an all time high, do you feel that in this kind of arena, that it is justifiable to have layoffs now?  At some point, even if management was solid, with a significant downturn like we have experienced, are layoffs justified?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>This is a great post about and I agree that laying people off can be purely from a failure from management.  I&#8217;ve worked in places where the last thing they wanted to do was lay people off, and even in a down time, they kept everyone on payroll and invested in training or improving processes.</p>
<p>I guess my question is, now that we are about 2 years later, and the US economy is in severe recession, unemployment is at an all time high, do you feel that in this kind of arena, that it is justifiable to have layoffs now?  At some point, even if management was solid, with a significant downturn like we have experienced, are layoffs justified?</p>
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		<title>By: Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; Toyota&#8217;s Commitment</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-33249</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; Toyota&#8217;s Commitment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] again Toyota shows what it means to go beyond the traditional way of thinking (where often MBA bean-counters and lawyers decide what should be done) instead of someone interested in having the company [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] again Toyota shows what it means to go beyond the traditional way of thinking (where often MBA bean-counters and lawyers decide what should be done) instead of someone interested in having the company [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Curious Cat Management Blog &#187; Cutting Hours Instead of People</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-33213</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious Cat Management Blog &#187; Cutting Hours Instead of People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When financial and economic realities reach the point that labor costs must be cut I believe a good option to consider is cutting hours (and pay) instead of people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When financial and economic realities reach the point that labor costs must be cut I believe a good option to consider is cutting hours (and pay) instead of people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Curious Cat Management Blog &#187; Some Firms Cut Costs Without Resorting to Layoffs</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-33198</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious Cat Management Blog &#187; Some Firms Cut Costs Without Resorting to Layoffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>management either needs to fix the hiring process or the employee management/development process. The system is the problem not the person (the vast majority of the time)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>management either needs to fix the hiring process or the employee management/development process. The system is the problem not the person (the vast majority of the time)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; Idle Workers Busy at Toyota</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-32839</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; Idle Workers Busy at Toyota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Mason, a 40-year-old former firefighter, added: &quot;One of the major things that everyone is grateful for is that they thought enough of us to keep us here.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Mason, a 40-year-old former firefighter, added: &#8220;One of the major things that everyone is grateful for is that they thought enough of us to keep us here.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CuriousCat: How Downsizing is Handled When Management Respects People</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-32088</link>
		<dc:creator>CuriousCat: How Downsizing is Handled When Management Respects People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yesterday I had to do one of the more difficult things - lay off three of my good friends, all of whom are talented and professional developers.  I&#039;m posting here today in hopes that someone out in the world is looking for some seasoned talent, people who can get things done for you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yesterday I had to do one of the more difficult things &#8211; lay off three of my good friends, all of whom are talented and professional developers.  I&#8217;m posting here today in hopes that someone out in the world is looking for some seasoned talent, people who can get things done for you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lean Thinker</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-31824</link>
		<dc:creator>Lean Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the most progressive views on Lean I have ever seen.  As a lean leader one needs to understand the  
value the shop floor can generate.  Impressive viewpoint and look to learn more from you experience and insight. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most progressive views on Lean I have ever seen.  As a lean leader one needs to understand the </p>
<p>value the shop floor can generate.  Impressive viewpoint and look to learn more from you experience and insight.</p>
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		<title>By: CuriousCat: Creating Jobs</title>
		<link>http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2007/06/03/bad-management-results-in-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-31115</link>
		<dc:creator>CuriousCat: Creating Jobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you assume the lean company grows sales at the same rate as some poorly management company then it may well be that the lean company creates fewer jobs. However that is not a valid assumption...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you assume the lean company grows sales at the same rate as some poorly management company then it may well be that the lean company creates fewer jobs. However that is not a valid assumption&#8230;</p>
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